# Friday, July 06, 2007
Friday, July 06, 2007 4:55:57 AM UTC
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xbox 360 smashedOf course Microsoft does this, right after I sell my XBox 360 on eBay. Well, the bidder hasn’t paid me yet, and might not. So maybe I haven’t officially sold it yet.

But yeah, a few weeks ago I got the dreaded three red rings of death on my XBox 360, while watching an HD-DVD with Heather. If you know me, you know I hardly touch my XBox 360, except to watch DVDs or play arcade games. And I keep it flat (not standing), and not locked inside some entertainment center. For all intents and purposes, the game console should’ve lasted me years. The fact that it just failed watching a movie was unacceptable, but there wasn’t much I could do.

Before calling Microsoft’s support line, I found a forum post online from someone who had fixed the problem by just blowing out the dust with a can of air. I took it outside and did that, and quite a bit of dust was released from the box. Brought it back in and turned it on, and I was up and running again. Heather and I watched half of King Kong, and then shut it off. Looks like the problem was fixed for now. Well, it’s not my problem anymore technically, since it’s sold on eBay, but yeah.

Before today, if I had kept my XBox 360, the next time the red rings came up, I would’ve had to shell out like $150 to get my console fixed. But now, Microsoft’s extended the warranty to the consoles from the past three years. There’s even an “apology” letter of sorts from Peter Moore.

But in my opinion, it’s far overdue. When the console launched, I didn’t want to listen to all the people having problems. I just assumed they were being dumb, and using the console without ventilation, etc… but then I started to hear about friends having the problem, and then myself… it’s obvious there is a core hardware problem with the XBox 360 itself, either involving cooling or the placement of components inside. It’d be great if Microsoft went the extra mile and gave full disclosure about their findings. It’s ridiculous that retailers and the public were both complaining about the return rate of the console, and Microsoft kept saying that the returns/etc. were well under the industry standard. Riiight.

 
Friday, July 06, 2007 4:43:54 PM UTC
I don't think your post is completely fair towards Microsoft. I also received the three rings of death, even to the point where I was forced to RMA my Xbox360. This was a little over a year after I had purchased it, so it was no longer covered by the initial three month warranty. I had to pay $179 to RMA it with Microsoft.

After a few weeks, I received a letter from Microsoft saying that my 360 failed due to hardware failure and no fault of my own and because of this they REFUNDED me the $179 that I had paid. I give a lot of respect towards Microsoft for doing this because a lot of companies wouldn't have.

Shortly after the console had been out for a year, they extended the standard warranty period to one year. And now just shy of it's two year anniversary, they extend the warranty period to THREE years, which completely covers every 360 currently being used for at LEAST an additional year.

I think Microsoft is being as pro-active as they can be for the situation. In my blog I highlighted that the new XBox 360 Elite replaced several capacitors with solid state capacitors and people are even seeing newer 360's that have a newer heat pipe based heat sink to assist in cooling.

So, I say yes, it sucks that people have hardware that is failing, BUT, Microsoft I think has gone out of its way to ensure that the customer is taken care of.
Friday, July 06, 2007 11:06:48 PM UTC
Eric,

That's great that they took care of you that way. However, there are numerous people who haven't been treated that way, and paid out of pocket for repairs. Hopefully Microsoft will be proactive in contacting those who deserve a refund, but who knows how they'll go about it, or what criteria they use to determine if you're covered or not. Up until yesterday, to my understanding, I would've had to pay out of pocket for any repairs to my XBox 360.

Their "proactive" stance has been pretty darn slow. It's taken them this long to finally admit there is a common problem (leading to the three red rings of death.) Before that, they weren't saying a thing. Even now, they're still not telling us what's fully up. Are people experiencing this problem going to get newer heatsinks? Different fan/case internals? Different thermal paste? What exactly is/was the problem, and how is Microsoft "fixing" it?

People have been seeing different heatpipe configurations coming back from repair, but last I heard that was only in other countries.

And with regards to the Elite, I shouldn't need to purchase a new system just to solve design problems on the original system. I've even heard bad things about the Elite, particularly that it actually might be underclocked in order to prevent heat problems.
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